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This study investigates the limitations of current test-time scaling and post-training methods when applied to predicting individual stance in online discussions. By identifying specific failure modes such as incorrect consensus and response overfitting, the research highlights gaps between techniques effective for coding tasks and those needed for nuanced social reasoning. The authors propose a hybrid approach combining direct scoring with historical evidence assessment to improve prediction accuracy on specialized benchmarks.
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Where Do Test-Time Scaling and Training Fall Short in Individual Stance Prediction?

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arXiv:2609.33155v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: Test-time scaling and post-training have improved LLM performance in coding and mathematical reasoning, but their effectiveness for individual stance prediction remains unclear. We study this question by predicting a person's stance in a new discussion from their history. We evaluate widely used test-time scaling strategies and post-training methods, such as supervised fine-tuning and reinforcement learning, and identify four failure modes across generation, selection, and learning: (1) incorrect consensus, where repeated samples agree on the wrong stance; (2) selection failure, where generation covers the observed stance but selection misses it; (3) response overfitting, where supervised fine-tuning improves imitation but harms prediction; and (4) early plateau, where reinforcement learning shows modest initial gains followed by limited further improvement. We expose these failures using STANCE-BENCH, which contains 2499 prediction tasks from 500 Hacker News users. Guided by this analysis, we explore a simple approach that combines direct scores for all candidate stances with explicit assessments of support from the individual's history. On the 781-task test set, this approach achieves 21.83 discussion-specific Macro F1 with Qwen3-8B, compared with 19.27 for direct scoring. Our results motivate evaluating candidate generation, final selection, and person-specific evidence use separately.

Title:Where Do Test-Time Scaling and Training Fall Short in Individual Stance Prediction?

Abstract:Test-time scaling and post-training have improved LLM performance in coding and mathematical reasoning, but their effectiveness for individual stance prediction remains unclear. We study this question by predicting a person's stance in a new discussion from their history. We evaluate widely used test-time scaling strategies and post-training methods, such as supervised fine-tuning and reinforcement learning, and identify four failure modes across generation, selection, and learning: (1) incorrect consensus, where repeated samples agree on the wrong stance; (2) selection failure, where generation covers the observed stance but selection misses it; (3) response overfitting, where supervised fine-tuning improves imitation but harms prediction; and (4) early plateau, where reinforcement learning shows modest initial gains followed by limited further improvement. We expose these failures using STANCE-BENCH, which contains 2499 prediction tasks from 500 Hacker News users. Guided by this analysis, we explore a simple approach that combines direct scores for all candidate stances with explicit assessments of support from the individual's history. On the 781-task test set, this approach achieves 21.83 discussion-specific Macro F1 with Qwen3-8B, compared with 19.27 for direct scoring. Our results motivate evaluating candidate generation, final selection, and person-specific evidence use separately.

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