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Podcast: The Human Edge: Why Brownfield Codebases Need Mob Programming, Not Just AI Vibes

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Asgaut Mjølne Söderbom and Ola Hast discuss the evolution of their software engineering practices past continuous deployment and pair engineering. The conversation continues where it left off in the previous episode and focuses on the experiments in adopting Claude Code and the reasons why they consider it good for everything else, but not coding. By Asgaut Mjølne Söderbom, Ola Hast

Olimpiu Pop: Hello everybody. I'm Olimpiu Pop, an InfoQ editor. And today we have in front of us two people that we spoke to almost one year ago. And even though they tried at that point vibe coding or whatever, AI-generated code, they said that AI is not that fast for them. In the meantime, they experimented and we wanted to see where they are. But without further ado, I'll invite Asgaut and Ola to introduce themselves and to just remind us what they are doing for a living and for what company. Asgaut Mjølne Söderbom: Yes, my name is Asgaut Mjølne Söderbom. I'm a senior developer in SpareBank 1 Utvikling. And SpareBank 1 Utvikling is a software company and it's owned by 12 different banks in an alliance. So 12 different banks own our company. We are creating the digital bank solutions for all these banks, both on private and company sector. So we have about 1.2 million customers, which is a lot in Norway since we are five million inhabitants in total. And Ola, me, we work in a team that's called the private market account team where we are four developers and one product leader. The thing…

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