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This paper establishes a more accurate scaling law for quantized pretraining by explicitly modeling the distinct impacts of forward and backward pass quantization on model capacity and optimization efficiency. Validated across Qwen3 and Llama-style experiments, the formulation predicts training loss with significantly higher precision than existing laws, particularly as model size and compute budgets scale. Crucially, it reveals that optimal quantization precision increases with available compute, offering a hardware-aware recipe for layer-wise mixed precision strategies.
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Mixed Precision Scaling Laws for Quantized Pretraining

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arXiv:2610.17637v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: Since scaling laws were introduced for modern LLMs (Kaplan et al., 2020), several works have extended them to account for quantization, tracking the emerging low-precision data types supported on AI accelerators. We develop a more accurate scaling law for quantized pretraining with mixed precision across the forward and backward passes, grounded in optimization theory and validated empirically. Our formulation separates the effects of quantization on model capacity and on optimization efficiency, and explicitly models the persistent optimization error from forward and backward quantization identified through convergence analysis. To select the regimes for fitting and evaluating our law, we first decompose existing 4-bit training recipes into their forward and backward components, isolating those that most affect loss. Our Qwen3 experiments under selected 4-bit regimes, together with published Llama-style experiments, show that our law predicts loss with up to $11\times$ lower MSE than existing laws as model size and token count scale. Finally, we extend our law to layer-wise mixed precision and identify the optimal quantized-pretraining recipe, i.e., model size, training tokens, and per-layer forward/backward precision, under a hardware-aware compute budget. Unlike prior precision scaling laws, our law predicts that the optimal precision increases with the compute budget.

Abstract:Since scaling laws were introduced for modern LLMs (Kaplan et al., 2020), several works have extended them to account for quantization, tracking the emerging low-precision data types supported on AI accelerators. We develop a more accurate scaling law for quantized pretraining with mixed precision across the forward and backward passes, grounded in optimization theory and validated empirically. Our formulation separates the effects of quantization on model capacity and on optimization efficiency, and explicitly models the persistent optimization error from forward and backward quantization identified through convergence analysis. To select the regimes for fitting and evaluating our law, we first decompose existing 4-bit training recipes into their forward and backward components, isolating those that most affect loss. Our Qwen3 experiments under selected 4-bit regimes, together with published Llama-style experiments, show that our law predicts loss with up to $11\times$ lower MSE than existing laws as model size and token count scale. Finally, we extend our law to layer-wise mixed precision and identify the optimal quantized-pretraining recipe, i.e., model size, training tokens, and per-layer forward/backward precision, under a hardware-aware compute budget. Unlike prior precision scaling laws, our law predicts that the optimal precision increases with the compute budget.

Machine Learning (cs.LG)

arXiv:2610.17637 [cs.LG]

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