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This article is squarely about machine learning: a reinforcement learning method for post-training large language models, with experiments comparing GRPO and a lightweight SAO reproduction. The proposed Li²SAO uses a group-relative actor-critic warm start to address the cold-critic problem in asynchronous, single-rollout training. The results are reported as matching or exceeding GRPO early in training and raising the later performance ceiling, though these are preprint claims that still need independent validation across tasks and model scales.
Li$^{2}$SAO: Lifting Light Singl-Rollout Asynchronous RL Optimization via Group-Relative Actor-Critic Bootstrapping
arXiv:2610.40726v1 Announce Type: cross Abstract: Asynchronous reinforcement learning (RL) is becoming a mainstream paradigm for post-training large language models (LLMs), as it improves training efficiency by updating the model as rollouts arrive. Recent work argues that group-wise sampling in GRPO does not naturally fit asynchronous RL training because rollout lengths follow a long-tailed distribution, and proposes Single-rollout Asynchronous Optimization (SAO) to improve stability and off-policy behavior, especially on agentic tasks. However, SAO relies on a closed-source value model obtained from scaling value pretraining. In this paper, we analyze GRPO and LiSAO, our lightweight reproduction of SAO without the pretrained value model, on single-turn reasoning and multi-turn agentic tasks. We find that GRPO outperforms LiSAO on reasoning tasks, while the reverse holds on agentic tasks. Since the value model of LiSAO is not yet well trained , LiSAO lags behind GRPO substantially in early training steps. To address this issue, we propose Li$^{2}$SAO, which Lifts Light Single-rollout Asynchronous Optimization with group-relative actor-critic bootstrapping: while the critic is cold, a group-relative advantage trains the actor and a group-centered return trains the critic, after which training switches to single-rollout GAE. Experiments show that Li$^{2}$SAO catches up with or surpasses GRPO in early training and further raises the later performance ceiling. Code is available at https://github.com/jd-cc-coder/Li2SAO.
Abstract:Asynchronous reinforcement learning (RL) is becoming a mainstream paradigm for post-training large language models (LLMs), as it improves training efficiency by updating the model as rollouts arrive. Recent work argues that group-wise sampling in GRPO does not naturally fit asynchronous RL training because rollout lengths follow a long-tailed distribution, and proposes Single-rollout Asynchronous Optimization (SAO) to improve stability and off-policy behavior, especially on agentic tasks. However, SAO relies on a closed-source value model obtained from scaling value pretraining. In this paper, we analyze GRPO and LiSAO, our lightweight reproduction of SAO without the pretrained value model, on single-turn reasoning and multi-turn agentic tasks. We find that GRPO outperforms LiSAO on reasoning tasks, while the reverse holds on agentic tasks. Since the value model of LiSAO is not yet well trained , LiSAO lags behind GRPO substantially in early training steps. To address this issue, we propose Li$^{2}$SAO, which Lifts Light Single-rollout Asynchronous Optimization with group-relative actor-critic bootstrapping: while the critic is cold, a group-relative advantage trains the actor and a group-centered return trains the critic, after which training switches to single-rollout GAE. Experiments show that Li$^{2}$SAO catches up with or surpasses GRPO in early training and further raises the later performance ceiling. Code is available at this https URL.
Computation and Language (cs.CL); Machine Learning (cs.LG)
arXiv:2610.40726 [cs.CL]
(or arXiv:2610.40726v1 [cs.CL] for this version)
https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2610.40726 Focus to learn more arXiv-issued DOI via DataCite (pending registration)
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