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This research challenges the standard practice of selecting language model checkpoints solely based on pretraining loss or benchmark scores, demonstrating that such metrics can fail to predict performance in full-scale mixture-of-experts pipelines. The study identifies "solution density"—the ability to retain downstream performance under local weight perturbations—as a critical factor for choosing robust starting points for subsequent training stages.
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Good Pretraining, Bad SFT: Checkpoint Quality Across the Training Stack

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arXiv:2609.08966v1 Announce Type: cross Abstract: Language-model checkpoints are commonly selected by pretraining loss or benchmark scores, assuming that the highest-scoring checkpoint will remain the best starting point for subsequent training. We show that this assumption can fail in a full 30B mixture-of-experts training pipeline. The checkpoints that perform better after the full downstream training stack also have higher solution density, i.e., retain downstream performance under local weight perturbations.

Abstract:Language-model checkpoints are commonly selected by pretraining loss or benchmark scores, assuming that the highest-scoring checkpoint will remain the best starting point for subsequent training. We show that this assumption can fail in a full 30B mixture-of-experts training pipeline. The checkpoints that perform better after the full downstream training stack also have higher solution density, i.e., retain downstream performance under local weight perturbations.

Artificial Intelligence (cs.AI); Computation and Language (cs.CL)

arXiv:2609.08966 [cs.AI]

(or arXiv:2609.08966v1 [cs.AI] for this version)

https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2609.08966 Focus to learn more arXiv-issued DOI via DataCite (pending registration)

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