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This research exposes a critical gap in current LLMs, demonstrating that rhetorical fluency does not equate to formal argumentative strength when evaluated against rigorous logical adjudication systems. While models may dominate subjective human rankings in debates, they perform significantly worse than humans under formal argumentation-theoretic metrics, a weakness exacerbated by multi-agent and retrieval-augmented configurations. These findings highlight the need for AI safety and alignment efforts that prioritize logical validity over mere persuasive tone in high-stakes dialogue applications.
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Evaluating the Capabilities of LLMs for Persuasive Dialogue

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arXiv:2608.29738v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: Large language models (LLMs) can generate apparently highly persuasive text, but does sounding persuasive mean arguing well? We introduce \textsc{Persuasio}, a multi-agent dialogue platform grounded in a formal argumentation-based theory of persuasion dialogues that adjudicates logical winners during free-text debates. Using this system, we generated 192 debates on a UK political topic between humans and LLMs, and evaluated 22 interlocutors through both automated adjudication and 9,702 crowdsourced pairwise judgements across 1{,}386 annotation instances. We observed a consistent decoupling between subjective and formal persuasiveness: LLMs dominated the subjective ranking yet performed substantially worse under argumentation-theoretic adjudication, where humans remained competitive. Multi-agent and retrieval-augmented variants further widened this divergence. These findings reveal a systematic gap between rhetorical fluency and formal argumentative strength in LLM-based persuasive dialogues.

Abstract:Large language models (LLMs) can generate apparently highly persuasive text, but does sounding persuasive mean arguing well? We introduce \textsc{Persuasio}, a multi-agent dialogue platform grounded in a formal argumentation-based theory of persuasion dialogues that adjudicates logical winners during free-text debates. Using this system, we generated 192 debates on a UK political topic between humans and LLMs, and evaluated 22 interlocutors through both automated adjudication and 9,702 crowdsourced pairwise judgements across 1{,}386 annotation instances. We observed a consistent decoupling between subjective and formal persuasiveness: LLMs dominated the subjective ranking yet performed substantially worse under argumentation-theoretic adjudication, where humans remained competitive. Multi-agent and retrieval-augmented variants further widened this divergence. These findings reveal a systematic gap between rhetorical fluency and formal argumentative strength in LLM-based persuasive dialogues.

Computation and Language (cs.CL)

arXiv:2608.29738 [cs.CL]

(or arXiv:2608.29738v1 [cs.CL] for this version)

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