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This research demonstrates that on-policy distillation is remarkably data-efficient, with the marginal value of additional training prompts collapsing after just eight samples. The authors introduce a "data-free" approach where the teacher model generates its own questions, achieving performance comparable to or better than methods using thousands of real examples. These findings suggest that in frontier post-training pipelines, the transfer of reasoning modes outweighs the specific knowledge contained in large external datasets.
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Data-free On-policy Distillation

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arXiv:2609.14193v1 Announce Type: cross Abstract: On-policy distillation (OPD) has become a standard component of frontier post-training pipelines, yet how much its training data actually contributes has gone largely unexamined. On the two teacher-student pairings most common in practice, we find OPD almost indifferent to its data: eight prompts already match a 17k-problem dataset, and three independently built datasets whose difficulty and teacher-student KL differ several-fold produce nearly indistinguishable training curves. Two causes account for this. First, the unit of data in OPD is the state a prompt leads to, not the prompt itself: a single prompt keeps exposing new teacher correction as sampling continues, while the marginal value of additional prompts collapses after eight. Second, replacing mathematics with competitive programming still recovers over ninety percent of the in-domain gain, indicating that OPD transfers the teacher's mode of reasoning rather than knowledge related to the data. We take this to its limit with Data-free On-policy Distillation (DF-OPD), in which the teacher writes its own training questions under a simple prompt -- no external data, no filtering -- leaving a system of just two policies. DF-OPD matches and even surpasses real data, and the questions it produces track the teacher's own post-training data on three key diagnostics of training dynamics, which other real datasets do not. Applied to multi-teacher distillation, where the (prompt, domain) pairs normally have to be derived from post-training data that is often out of reach, 1k self-generated questions close 98.5% of the available headroom, even surpassing the 96.6% reached with 7k real examples. Moreover, together these results invite a reassessment of the role data plays in OPD.

Abstract:On-policy distillation (OPD) has become a standard component of frontier post-training pipelines, yet how much its training data actually contributes has gone largely unexamined. On the two teacher-student pairings most common in practice, we find OPD almost indifferent to its data: eight prompts already match a 17k-problem dataset, and three independently built datasets whose difficulty and teacher-student KL differ several-fold produce nearly indistinguishable training curves. Two causes account for this. First, the unit of data in OPD is the state a prompt leads to, not the prompt itself: a single prompt keeps exposing new teacher correction as sampling continues, while the marginal value of additional prompts collapses after eight. Second, replacing mathematics with competitive programming still recovers over ninety percent of the in-domain gain, indicating that OPD transfers the teacher's mode of reasoning rather than knowledge related to the data. We take this to its limit with Data-free On-policy Distillation (DF-OPD), in which the teacher writes its own training questions under a simple prompt -- no external data, no filtering -- leaving a system of just two policies. DF-OPD matches and even surpasses real data, and the questions it produces track the teacher's own post-training data on three key diagnostics of training dynamics, which other real datasets do not. Applied to multi-teacher distillation, where the (prompt, domain) pairs normally have to be derived from post-training data that is often out of reach, 1k self-generated questions close 98.5% of the available headroom, even surpassing the 96.6% reached with 7k real examples. Moreover, together these results invite a reassessment of the role data plays in OPD.

Machine Learning (cs.LG); Artificial Intelligence (cs.AI)

arXiv:2609.14193 [cs.LG]

(or arXiv:2609.14193v1 [cs.LG] for this version)

https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2609.14193 Focus to learn more arXiv-issued DOI via DataCite (pending registration)

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