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This study challenges the assumption that second-order Gauss-Newton methods universally outperform Adam by demonstrating their limitations under specific basis alignments and stochastic noise conditions. The findings suggest that first-order gradient statistics can offer genuine advantages over curvature-based preconditioning in non-convex settings like logistic regression, providing critical insights for optimizing deep learning training dynamics.
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Adam or Gauss-Newton? A Comparative Study In Terms of Basis Alignment and SGD Noise

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arXiv:2510.13680v2 Announce Type: replace Abstract: Preconditioned methods are central to deep learning optimization. Predominant approaches include computationally light diagonal preconditioners such as Adam, which rely on gradient statistics, and second-order methods such as Gauss-Newton (GN), which capture richer curvature information. Seeking the best of both worlds, we disentangle the preconditioner design space into several factors, separating the choice of diagonal scaling (Adam-style versus GN-style) from 1) the basis choices under which the diagonal scaling operates, and 2) the gradient noises from mini-batching. Our theoretical results show that GN's optimality for linear regression no longer holds under a poorly chosen basis under both population and stochastic updates, or a move from linear regression to a non-convex variant of logistic regression. In these settings, Adam-style methods offer genuine advantages over curvature-inspired preconditioning, rather than serving merely as a tractable proxy. Empirical results on synthetic problems and CIFAR-10 support these findings.

Title:Adam or Gauss-Newton? A Comparative Study In Terms of Basis Alignment and SGD Noise

Abstract:Preconditioned methods are central to deep learning optimization. Predominant approaches include computationally light diagonal preconditioners such as Adam, which rely on gradient statistics, and second-order methods such as Gauss-Newton (GN), which capture richer curvature information. Seeking the best of both worlds, we disentangle the preconditioner design space into several factors, separating the choice of diagonal scaling (Adam-style versus GN-style) from 1) the basis choices under which the diagonal scaling operates, and 2) the gradient noises from mini-batching. Our theoretical results show that GN's optimality for linear regression no longer holds under a poorly chosen basis under both population and stochastic updates, or a move from linear regression to a non-convex variant of logistic regression. In these settings, Adam-style methods offer genuine advantages over curvature-inspired preconditioning, rather than serving merely as a tractable proxy. Empirical results on synthetic problems and CIFAR-10 support these findings.

Machine Learning (cs.LG)

arXiv:2510.13680 [cs.LG]

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