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This arXiv preprint asks whether generative language models beat encoder-only discriminative models at discourse parsing, a core NLP task. The answer is mixed: at matched parameter counts, discriminative parsers win, but much larger generative models sometimes close the gap, and generative models show a clear edge in segmenting text into elementary discourse units. Readers should treat the new RST-DT state-of-the-art claims as benchmark results on a single dataset, and weigh them against the substantial compute that the larger generative models require.
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Worth Their Weights? Evaluating Generative Models for Discourse Parsing

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arXiv:2610.17658v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: Rhetorical Structure Theory (RST) parsing has historically been dominated by discriminative models based on pretrained encoder-only language models. The recent availability of high-quality generative language models has made it unclear whether RST parsing is better approached as a generative task. In this work, we investigate whether generative language models are better at parsing RST than traditional discriminative ones. We find that at matched parameter counts, discriminative parsers perform much better than generative ones, though much larger generative models sometimes outperform them. Generative models hold a particular advantage in elementary discourse unit (EDU) segmentation, and we report new state-of-the-art results on the RST-DT benchmark in end-to-end parsing as well as segmentation.

Title:Worth Their Weights? Evaluating Generative Models for Discourse Parsing

Abstract:Rhetorical Structure Theory (RST) parsing has historically been dominated by discriminative models based on pretrained encoder-only language models. The recent availability of high-quality generative language models has made it unclear whether RST parsing is better approached as a generative task. In this work, we investigate whether generative language models are better at parsing RST than traditional discriminative ones. We find that at matched parameter counts, discriminative parsers perform much better than generative ones, though much larger generative models sometimes outperform them. Generative models hold a particular advantage in elementary discourse unit (EDU) segmentation, and we report new state-of-the-art results on the RST-DT benchmark in end-to-end parsing as well as segmentation.

Computation and Language (cs.CL)

arXiv:2610.17658 [cs.CL]

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